So I heard.....

"Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer" (dash-doorhandle-and-bondo) 01/23/2019 at 19:28 • Filed to: None

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That the new 2019 R am (worked on one today) will apply the brakes (by itself) if one tries to reverse with mudded-over (dirty) rear park aid sensors. Got this from the trucks owner.

What might we collectively think about this?

nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul > Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer 01/23/2019 at 19:48

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So it’s sorta makes sense. Backup sensor thinks there’s something behind you that you dont see so it hits the brakes. Now, if it alerts you then you double tap the brake to override then sure no problem.

Also the new Ram styling is excellent. It's getting more of that extra busy Chevy and GMC look but it's still pretty Ram looking. 

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer 01/23/2019 at 19:50

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As long as the off button for the sensors is easy to reach I’m okay with it. 

Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer > nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul 01/23/2019 at 19:52

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Yeah, the LAST time I was impressed with a new truck it was the last new R amin 09.  O therwise all new trucks mean I need to learn new wiring diagrams.   I’m sure one can adjust the park assist,  Mrs doorhandle’s escape allows turning it off for trailering etc.  That truck is not going to reverse while towing until the owner spends an hour reading the manual. 

theloudmouth > Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer 01/23/2019 at 19:53

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Same thing happens on my 2018 GC, but it also happens to any car with AEB. Just hit the button to turn off the sensors and you’re golden. More useless tech we don’t need.

Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer > theloudmouth 01/23/2019 at 19:56

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I’m ok with beeping, but I would prefer to be in charge of the actual car.

Urambo Tauro > Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer 01/23/2019 at 19:57

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I enjoy a clean car as much as the next guy, but I live on an unpaved road, so compromises have to be made as far as wash frequency goes. That said, w here exactly ar e these sensors located and how easily do they become dirty enough to engage the brakes? Is there some kind of aerodynamic voodoo going on that helps direct road debris from accumulating at the sensors? How often would you have to clean them during, say, a sloppy Michigan winter?

I un derstand why this system exists, but I ’m not convin ced that keeping these sensors clean is easier than checking mirrors and blind spots before reversing.

Rust and Dust - Oppositelock Forever > Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer 01/23/2019 at 20:05

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I’ve had that mentioned by customers with sensors knocked into the bumpers and dangling on the harness.

Also had a customer drive a vehicle in with the right quarter of the rear bumper, park sensor included, missing. The object sensor that dangles off the right quarter below the bumper skin was also absent, the entire harness severed inside the cover against the reinforcement. “Apeshit” was the customer’s description of the dash/car on the drive in (guy was a fucking hero for even driving the thing, IMO).

I’ll never buy anything with a driving aid I can’t turn off.  If a time comes when that’s not an option, I’ll disconnect what I need to and live with a warning lamp.

BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind > Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer 01/23/2019 at 20:07

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While it’s understandable to not give owners much credit, I feel like you’re being too harsh. Most trucks with towing packages have various do-dads and levers and stuff that are unique from truck to truck and take a second to learn. It’s certainly not too much for the Dodge owner to figure out that they need to press a button to turn the AEB system off. Heck, the truck may turn it off itself when it detects a trailer is wired up. 

nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul > Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer 01/23/2019 at 20:10

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Meanwhile GMC plans on pulling off this craziness.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer 01/23/2019 at 20:13

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Clearly these luxury vehicles were not designed to  get muddy then.

Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind 01/23/2019 at 20:13

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Perhaps I’ve been a bit of an ogre,  BUT I have had to sit and read the manual to owners of trucks, convinced they’re gonna get something for nothing by noticing a bunch of shit they never noticed before.  “My Tailgate handle LED never stayed on that long before you touched my truck”  More than once.  

Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 01/23/2019 at 20:14

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fleet model not out yet.   Pearl white, no work white. 

Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer > nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul 01/23/2019 at 20:15

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did you see the six-way tailgate?  at least one good idea in there, but one garden tractor will destroy it. 

Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer > Rust and Dust - Oppositelock Forever 01/23/2019 at 20:17

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they don’t seem to stop people from backing into things.

Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer > Urambo Tauro 01/23/2019 at 20:18

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This batch of customers work the oil rigs.  They do dirty like you couldn’t even fathom.  Hence the term “RIG PIG”.    super nice truck though.

Rust and Dust - Oppositelock Forever > Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer 01/23/2019 at 20:22

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No shit lol, I wrote an Accord this afternoon with the right rear park sensor literally painted yellow with transfer from a garage bollard.

It’s a decked out Hybrid with all the bells and whistles, took me longer to get the fucking cluster to display the odometer than it did to write the estimate.  My best guess is that the alarm tone is a frequency the drivers hearing aid blocks out?  Or he’s a raging alcoholic?  No clue...

Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer > Rust and Dust - Oppositelock Forever 01/23/2019 at 20:25

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I used to install blow’n’go breathalyser interlocks.  There are some surprisingly high-functioning raging alkies driving around out there.

19JRC99 > Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer 01/23/2019 at 20:41

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I work at a Chrysler dealership, and I hate these sensors. If it THINKS you’re too close it stops immediately, leading to a momentary panic of “what did I just hit?!” And what was it? NOTHING. 

BaconSandwich is tasty. > nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul 01/23/2019 at 23:32

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Any idea how that works?

StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 > Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer 01/24/2019 at 09:42

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Theres a dash button to turn the sensors off.  No big deal.

Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer > StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 01/24/2019 at 10:13

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glad there is, did not experience it myself.   I need to knock ‘em out every 30 minutes.

Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer > Rust and Dust - Oppositelock Forever 01/24/2019 at 10:15

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As a body guy, I’m sure you know all about whiskeystains and speedwrinkles. 

StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 > Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer 01/24/2019 at 10:22

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I think just about every car has a button to turn them off.  At least they should....

Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer > StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 01/24/2019 at 10:44

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just curious what’s the M in msrt8?

Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer > StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 01/24/2019 at 10:44

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magnum, it’s magnum,  if it is I’m way jealous.

nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul > BaconSandwich is tasty. 01/24/2019 at 15:50

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Two cameras, one on the tailgate and one trailer. Probably an algorithm that takes the trailer picture and overlays it on the tailgate camera, masks out what the tailgate can't see. So like two sets of negative space images. 

BaconSandwich is tasty. > nFamousCJ - Keeper of Stringbean, Gengars and a Deezul 01/24/2019 at 16:08

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Ah, that makes more sense. I was trying to think how they would do it without a camera on the trailer.

Rust and Dust - Oppositelock Forever > Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer 01/24/2019 at 18:28

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Oh yeah, I’m also in a town with a small college for exceptionally rich children.

We do a lot of repairs where mommy and daddy call in at completion with credit cards to cover the expensive part of junior’s weekend tab.

StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 > Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer 01/28/2019 at 08:44

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It is ;-).  2006 w/ about 65k miles on it.  You can kinda make it out in my profile picture.

Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer > StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 01/28/2019 at 08:51

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should still be with us as the C harger wagon

StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 > Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer 01/28/2019 at 08:58

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Yea it should.  There are a few people that have swapped the new charger front end onto Magnums and they actually look really good.  I’m saving up money/time now for the 6 speed manual swap.